Robin Hood interviews with cast. (Links should still be okay)
Richard Armitage (Guy) says Lucy Griffiths (Marian) was his favourite person to work with on Robin Hood:
http://www.daemonstv.com/2008/05/02/interview-richard-armitage-from-robin-hood/
Lucy Griffiths interview: "When an actress is known more for being famous than the roles she plays, she can find herself without much of a career". LINK:
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/33211
Another Lucy interview: (Rather pointless cut and paste job from old sources):
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008/may/23/lucy-griffiths-at-20-is-plotting-how-to-present/
http://www.daemonstv.com/2008/05/02/interview-richard-armitage-from-robin-hood/
Lucy Griffiths interview: "When an actress is known more for being famous than the roles she plays, she can find herself without much of a career". LINK:
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/33211
Another Lucy interview: (Rather pointless cut and paste job from old sources):
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008/may/23/lucy-griffiths-at-20-is-plotting-how-to-present/
Labels: Lucy Griffiths, richard armitage, Robin Hood
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BBC Robin Hood Cast:
Robin Hood - Jonas Armstrong
Marian - Lucy Griffiths
Guy of Gisborne - Richard Armitage
Sheriff of Nottingham - Keith Allen
Little John - Gordon Kennedy
Much - Sam Troughton
Alan A'Dale - Joe Armstrong
Will Scarlett - Harry Lloyd
Anjali Jay - Djaq
(Basic cast only).
Dear Hoodies,
Not wanting to get into any creepy "stalker" type stuff here, but I have sent just ONE e-mail to the cast and crew in Budapest on everyone's behalf who drops by this blog.
The Sontaran Doctor Who two-parter that just finished airing was awfully well-directed, too. So it sounds like RH is sharing a good bit of talent with DW--a good thing in my book--as well as reusing the writers of some of the better scripts of last season.
Didn't Richard Armitage say in an interview posted earlier that he, personally, starts filming RH in June? Which could mean he's in fewer episodes but just as likely means they were able to to use "block shooting," filming his scenes for various episodes at the same time so they can them around his Spooks schedule.
And the ONE e-mail seems like a good thing! It's tricky to know when you cross a line with these things. One attempt at contact like this is well with the bounds of reason.
Hi dc.,
Yes, Richard Armitage did say he had that later schedule. But, as you say, he can easily shoot his scenes later. The whole style of the thing has been quite "close cropped" and "strike a pose" so far.
Dr Who: It would be great to have Catherine Tate do a Robin hood one week! She's my 3rd favourite assistant. First, Rose, second Sarah (from the "old days"!), 3rd C Tate.
And I agree about the e-mail. One is enough. It enclosed the blog address, and was from "all the readers". No "hits" so far from Budapest though!
I concur with one email . Obviously , Like many i am interested in the R.H series and feel comfortable debating every aspect of it as as it is in the public arena and therefore, harmless .
But anything else could be interpreted as encroaching and a tad weird.
It's heartening to hear the new director endorsed. Robin, I'm very impressed that you figured out a way to email the cast and crew in Budapest. One on behalf of "the gang" seems okay and appropriately fannish as opposed to stalkerish.
Thanks for the info!
I think sending the link was a good idea. This place has great reviews of episodes and discussion. It's a little like TVGuide sending an emal. Ok, maybe not quite like that, but you see my point.
"Didn't Richard Armitage say in an interview posted earlier that he, personally, starts filming RH in June? Which could mean he's in fewer episodes but just as likely means they were able to to use "block shooting," filming his scenes for various episodes at the same time so they can them around his Spooks schedule."
I was confused about when RA is going down becuase in the first interview he gave last week, RA said he would be going down in two weeks, or something to that effect. Maybe they changed it? Maybe he meant May 29th? It's an easy enough mistake to make, especially when one is busy all the time a she is.
Royal
Is Ms Grifiths in Merlin? R.A said the bird had flown north until the autumn. Merlin is being filmed up here and in Wales . She is not in Tess
Hi Royal-N,
And welcome. It is very confusing at present trying to find out anything reliable at all. But, as already stated, just because he might not be there at the start doesn't mean he still can't be placed in the first Series 3 episodes by the time it airs.
Hi anonympus,
I don't know anything reliable about Lucy at present. i doubt very much indeed she will be in Merlin, - although the BBC do like to use the same actors over and over again at present! Have you seen a Brit soap? the same cast circulate through all of them...
But, don't place too much significance on the "bird has flown" comment. Who really knows what he was talking about. (Good guy though, keeping contact with his loyal fan base).
Please check out "The meant to Be" with that Hornblower chap
Hi Robin-
So pleased with the news that filming is at last underway.
What a brilliant idea to email on behalf of us all. I do hope that someone has the curtesy to reply! It does make such a lot of differance when actors are willing to talk and stay in contact with their fans which after all are their bread and butter.
RA always seems willing to chat and appears most approachable.
Hi Evielyn,
I'm glad you agree that just one e-mail is a supportive, sign of appreciation type thing to do.
I can tell everyone that this blog received 3 "hits" from Hungary today which, according to the data, would appear to have come direct from the link in that mail.
But I shall send no more. If "they" want to contact "us" they know where we are!
Very cool, Robin! Thanks again for writing on our behalf.
Ecellent Robin - We will have to sit, tight and wait and hope! Thanks again for taking the trouble for all of us
As an aside: Though it might be more fun to get postings from cast members, it might be more productive to get postings from, say, the key grip, or a translator, or the props mistress, or somebody else who would be on set regularly and would regularly get scripts, but would be less in the public eye. I know that TPTB kind of turn a blind eye to that kind of thing on some shows because they know and trust such crew members even better than they know the actors. Also, information leaked out by actors is much more likely to hit the headlines than information leaked out by grunts in the crew. It's one thing to reward loyal and hard-core fans with tidbits of information; its another for that info to hit the headlines and to catch fire on the internet, be open to distortion and manipulation, and be used to inflate an actor's public profile.
I really don`t feel comfortable with dcwash`s last suggestion . I feel that is crossing the line , it is one thing for an individual to post information , quite another to request .
The crew members are employees and as such could quite easily ended up embroiled in something that spiralled out of control ,suspicion around leaked information .
i think R.H as been exceptionally shrewd at keeping this blog within the working within the line of reasonability .
One can enjoy a show , admire actors in their specific roles but never speculate or indeed have any interest about their private lives which would include their working lives in the narrow sense .
i could lift the phone and ask a couple of people what is happening but would never dream of it
Kitty,
I think dc was just having a bit of fun. Bare in mind his earlier comment: "ONE e-mail seems like a good thing! One attempt at contact like this is well with the bounds of reason."
Certainly, as I've said, i won't be sending any more.
(Not sure if this went through earlier. Also, it occurred to me that the caps and such may make it seem like I'm angry. I'm not. They're just there for emphasis and clarity.)
What I meant was, IF we hear back from anybody, and IF it's on a regular basis, the information from a crew member might be more accurate, detailed, and impartial than information from one of the actors, who has a fan base and a public reputation to consider. That contact might also be more likely to be tacitly sanctioned by TPTB. I did NOT mean Robin (or anyone else) should actively solicit such leaks beyond what's already been done, which I imagine is pretty vague--along the lines of "love the show, love to hear more about how things are going."
Hi dc.,
All is cool. I understood exactly what you meant, and I think Kitty was just seeking the clarity you've now provided.
Just out of interest, yes, the best wishes in my e-mail were to the whole "cast and crew".
Thanks for the input. (As always).
Hi Robin-
Have there been anymore hits onto your blog from Hungary apart from the first 3 that you mentioned?
Hi Evielyn,
Well, I can tell you that in the last 100 hits today (which is all my free counter retains detailed information on), 6 came from Hungary. These were spread over two different IP addresses. One came direct, obviously knowing the blog address, and the other came via Google (an image search for King Richard). We will never ever know who in Hungary is reading the blog. People move around with laptops. (Gordon Kennedy, a former Mac man now has a PC, according to the interview).
So I'm not pretending it's "them" logging on and reading!
For anyone who might be interested in seeing exactly where all your fellow readers are coming from, here are details of the latest hits:
130 United States
116 United Kingdom
21 Spain
21 Australia
19 Unknown -
17 France
14 Canada
12 Norway
11 Switzerland
10 New Zealand
9 Netherlands
7 Germany
6 Hungary
6 Greece
6 Sweden
4 Portugal
3 Romania
3 Poland
3 Italy
3 Czech Republic
2 Cyprus
2 Egypt
2 Luxembourg
2 Slovakia
1 Bosnia And Herzegovina
1 Turkey
1 Austria
1 Malaysia
1 Hong Kong
1 Finland
1 Denmark
1 Thailand
1 Argentina
Right now (10.00pm UK time), this blog has reached 304 hits today. that's rather quiet. During the series it goes crazy. And of course all the other Robin Hood blogs (especially series 1, and the main Robin Hood blog), get their share.
I just thought that might be of interest. (Anyone wishing to visit any of our sponsors at the top of the site, however briefly, helps support the site!)
Wow Robin!- that is really cool!
You are read literally all over the world
Oh dear ,I did not want to give the impression I am paranoid soul ;I love DCWash`s insightful comments my only concern was that we could be construed as crossing the line .
I reiterate this blog is marvelous , the information , humour and speculation is suberb.
One of its great attributes is that it is not a fan site , but a programme site . Therefore, all contributors keep their own identity and don`t languish in misapprehension about the virtues or values of their chosen one .
Dc wash i am sorry if i have hurt your sensibilities
Guess who has arrived in Budapest ? Answers on a post card to R.H
Blogger who hates blogging
That is so mean ? who?
Yes I agree! Come on at least give us a clue
Because I am nice person -a clue yes ;
blogger who will never blog again
3 -toil
UPDATES:
A nice Richard Armitage interview now on this post, for those who haven't seen it. It's a little out of date, but has info on Spooks and his respect for Lucy as an actress.
Also, how are Merlin, Dr Who and Robin Hood all going to be able to share the 7.oopm slot for 13 weeks?
Dead easy -Merlin runs in after Dr Who ( Tonight was fabulous)and then Robin hood ,which appears to be filming late .
r.h how do you know where the contributors come from?
Because I am nice person -a clue yes ;
Well, I'LL play, even if nobody else will!
It sounds like Keith Allen is back at work.
Why Keith allen
No other reason than the phrasing of "a clue -yes." That suggests the Sheriff's catch phrase.
Hi Kitty,
I don't know where contributors come from, unless I only got 1 "hit" that day and that "hit" left a comment. Which is unlikely to happen at present.
A stat counter provides me with the number of hits per day; how they got here (Google or bookmark etc.); and their IP address. the IP address tells which city and country a viewer is from.
Of course it is possible to "mask" your IP address and not show up on any counter.
Basic stat counters are free.
Everybody
Sorry if I'm a bit slow to respond at present. There seems to be a fault with e-mail/comment notification. In other words, unless I'm sat here, I'm not being told someone's left a comment. I hope it resolves soon.
Hi Robin-
Just found this left in my email box 11/05/08 posted to me by admin /robinhood2006.com.
Its an interview by Lucy Griffiths.
and its quite a long interesting one although she gives nothing at all away about S3 only that any decisions made about her character were made beween her and the producers!
Here is the link that I have been given.
http://robinhood2006.com/main/modules/news/articles.php?storyid=199
Hope this is of interest I am going to recheck the link to make sure it is correct. They are always so long I might well have made a mistake as I am a grownup!!
Hi Again -
The link is correct .
The interview is dated 9th May 2008 with MediaBLVD.(the source of Celebrity interviews)
and is entitled Robin Hood's Lucy Griffiths on playing Maid Marian
What a sad interview . Obviously, she has to toe the party line but it does appear quite clear that she has no other work . it also stands against what was dished out initially, she wanted to leave to work in Hollywood -I take it no-one told her that .
i found that interview sad-imagine doing a good jo and then getting the boot
Thanks Evielyn,
Here's a link to the original:
http://www.mediablvd.com/magazine/the_news/celebrity/robin_hood%27s_lucy_griffiths_on_playing_maid_marian_200805091134.html
I found it rather sad as well. As Kitty says she still doesn't appear to have any work lined up! What a waste of a super actress
What really annoys me is the presumption that the average programme watcher is a knuckle trailer and seriously cerablly challenged .
We have the commisioning producer clearly stating regarding the departure of Marian`s character "it was a difficult decision to make "
We also have R.A stating
"He argued with the writers"
and now we have L.G stating that
"it was a decision made between her and the producers "
We also have the party line
"L.G was exploring her options "
L.G would have been told , her opinion would not have been sought
There are very few actors that wield that kind of influence .
I fully understand L.G`s stand -she has to think about future work , I fully understand R.A`s stand -he will fully realise through experience -the value of a working programme .
That is all fair enough -But B.B.C take responsibility stop imagining the average programme watcher will accept what ever drivel and excuses are thrown at them .
i am fully aware how tight the system is
It seems very odd to me that although she has finished with the show she is still giving interviews and talking about how much she enjoys working with the others - on reflection she was doing that on I think it was comic relief last winter and she knew then what was happening to her character ( we didn't then of course that was a treat to come )
but I still find it weird that as so many now know in other countries know what happens to her it loses its edge
I think that she does come over as very naive and it does seem to me that she has been badly advised
My old hobby horse!! if as she says it was a joint decision didn't she like RA query the way the story line was going with the killing off of her character leaving a Robin alone?
It's tempting to parse all these interviews for hidden clues (below I do just that). Kitty, I think you're right that actors don't want to burn their bridges by expressing disagreement with TPTB. It would be folly for Lucy to do so.
Now to my bit of parsing--a question or two after Lucy says that her character arc was a mutual decision, she mentions that she couldn't have predicted she'd be on Robin Hood for 3 years. It was probably just part of the strategy to avoid giving away the ending to US viewers, but I keep hoping it was a hint.
By the way, dcwash, when I saw the clue from "anonymous blogger who will never blog again," my first thought was that it was a bored Keith Allen having a bit of fun with us. If so, good on him for playing.
Evielen-too right i checked the wikepedia -L.g site and her popularity decreases.
why don`t we e mail foz
Kitty
To add to your list of commendations is also the statement Richard Armitage made that she was his favourote person to work with. (Link in the post).
Now that is high praise indeed. Most actors dodge such questions, preferring to spout the vague, diplomatic "party line". But he seemed not to hesitate for a moment.
Lucy also said that Richard was one of her favourite people to work with as well.
But it is sad that her popularity is decreasing but not unsuprising given what's happening or not happening! I still can't believe that anyone could be quite as niave as she sounds! Surely she must have put up a fight for her role to continue she must know the legend although she states she had seen no other Marian's only an aminated version!
Thanks for the link to the LG interview. I'm going to continue to go on believing that she will show up again in S3 (myself and several other IMDb posters are going to go with that delusion until proven otherwise lol). If she doesn't return, I hope she gets more roles. It was great fun to watch her interpretation of Marian.
Anyway, I'm glad to hear Keith Allen is at work (that must be him!). Hopefully we'll get a newish interview from Joans Armstrong soon.
Royal
Evielyn, I know what you mean about finding it hard to believe Lucy is naive. She's so poised and mature in interviews that I keep forgetting that she's still only 20 years old. I think her particular type of beauty lends to the illusion--there's an ageless quality to her that makes her look older than her years. She's about as far away from cute as one can imagine. Words like lovely, elegant, classic beauty come to mind. I think that's why some people found the Guy-Marian relationship more compelling. I didn't because I liked how Lucy's scenes with Jonas occasionally brought out a playful, trusting quality, as opposed to the guarded reserve she has with Gisborne.
My respect for Richard Armitage grows with each interview. He seems to be an unusually generous actor who became a mentor to Lucy, who obviously cares deeply about developing as an actress. Making a study of her performances in series 1 certainly paid off--I thought she was much more relaxed and assured in series 2. That's saying a lot since I thought she was very good in series 1.
I just can't imagine the series without her, so I'm also holding out hope for her return.
Robin, LOVE your blog. Just discovered it. :-)
HUGE RH fan. Seriously bitter about Marian being killed off! Thanks for keeping us informed.
SJL
Hi everyone-
Annie I have just reread Lucy's interview and she says what we have always said She/Marian loved
Robin and hated being apart from him and only used Guy as she needed his help to get in and out of the castle so I'm glad that our interpretation of her feelings was correct.
I do so want her to come back as like you I can't imagine the series without her. How can she have thought that any decision taken was for the good of the story to move the series on - in what way!!
Surely her agent must have said to her that Marian doesn't get killed off!! As I have said before she has been badly advised, whatever has her Fanclub told all the children/youngsers who have written in or emailed in to her about her leaving the show in such a way? There is no answer.
I am dying to hear what Jonas thinks about all of this he has been very quiet about everything since the end of S2 I don't think that I have ever seen an in depth interview with him at all apart from the very beginning.
Richard comes across as being such a pleasant generous person taking time and trouble to help and talk to people making them feel at ease my respect for him grows as well
Has anyone seen the supposed "Saying Goodbye to Marian" featurette that's on Season 2 dvds? Just curious to see what they say...
A bit of news about Merlin. It's been picked up by NBC, which is one of the four main networks in the US. I had assumed it would be on BBC America, which is usually bundled into one of the deluxe cable packages, much to my disappointment. It's why I can't see Robin Hood or other decent UK series on television until they come out on DVD.
I wonder if having the show picked up by one of the major networks in the US will affect when it's shown in the UK? Even though Dr. Who is very popular in the US, I would say that it still has cult status. In addition to BBC America, it's shown on channels like CBC and SciFi.
Evielyn,
I'd like to endorse a couple of things you say: Firstly, about Lucy's coment that Marian "only used Guy as she needed his help to get in and out of the castle", and you go on to say "I'm glad that our interpretation of her feelings was correct".
Me to! I really had a problem with that one, and worried a little about posting my criticisms of what at first appeared to be everyone else's view point that Marian loved Guy, when she so obviously did not! (As we said at the time, that perception was in the fantasies of the viewers, never the script).
Also, you mention "whatever has her Fanclub told all the children who have written in about her leaving the show in such a way?" Well, I get quite a few e-mails away from these comment boxes, and I can tell you the nature of Marian's death caused a lot of upset.
Anonymous,
The DVD featurette has been reviewed somewhere in these comment boxes over the last few posts. Basically, "nothing was revealed" would appear to be the general consensus.
But no doubt nice to have as a little added extra.
Hi Robin Hood.
I have been watching your blog for some time and I'm immpressed with it!
Just wondering about Marian being killed. Should we criticize the BBC or Tiger Aspect? A friend challenged me, and seeing as you know alot more about the show than I do, I ask you.
Keep up the FANtastic work!!!!
Regards,
Emily
I really liked the Guy /Marian thing because to me it reflected the tension of the time .Life was not precious and there was a constant jostling for position and by default survival .
Yes Robin and Marian were cute , I think that candyfloss approach is what I really struggled with,
They were boy and girl ,whilst Marian grew is stature and developed an understanding and appreciation of her physical strength in seies 2 , Robin did not.
The lack of depth and passion around the writing regarding his relationship with marian was dire .
It was as though they were at different stages of maturity albeit cute.
Personally . I would have married Marian off to Guy through her repeating the marriage vows to Guy which would have stopped him in his tracks instead of her declaring her love for Robin which led to her untimely death .
Why , I would have chosen that approach , it would have kept her in the series .The producers had declared they wanted R. H hurt deeply . That could have been achieved through a marriage . obviously, the marriage would not work , but it would still have afforded the opportunity for Guy to become more demonic due to his paranoia about Marian .
Marian could hav eben forced to turn her back on her deeply held beliefs on the social status quo and remove her slef back to R,H .
Again . and i knoew I am becoming boring -sloppy writing .
And as for losing scarlett as well , they are going to really struggle with the lack of established defined characters .
Anonymous Emily
I think it's 50/50.
The writers had no real respect / passion for the legend, treating the "love triangle" aspect like a cynically written soap. Short term shocks, rather than long term character development.
But the BBC must accept their share of the blame. They seemed to have little influence, and a very loose hold on the reigns. After all, it could have been a lucrative long term investment for them.
Obviously they are now kicking themselves and hoping it still can be, but the fans are so p*ssed off with it all they may not be willing to give it a chance.
Hi Kitty,
Whilst i was totally unconvinced that Marian and Guys "relationship" was based on anything other than "grooming", bullying, and manipulation, I do agree the writing of the Robin / Marian affair left much to be desired.
We are all sounding like broken records!
But there were very good moments, like the scene in series one where she applies the bandages; and the first "death" scene; and the ride away from the church with the veil trailing behind.
The proposal when it finally came wasn't as touching as any of those, not were Robin's final scenes with her, and then later with Will and Djaq. (Maybe someone was getting bored or confused???)
I sort of feel like the writers have pushed this on themselves. Instead of drawing out the Robin/Marian/Guy thing, they've pushed the limits of on screen love/relationship and tapped it out in two seasons. They've given themselves no choice but to move in this direction because we moved so quickly with Robin and Marian's relationship in such a short amount of time. It's stupid really. I feel like they are taking what was a rather light, fanciful show that people felt good about, and turning a corner by hanging this dark cloud of Marian's death. I mean come on! The world is cruel enough. Can't we just have one hour of escapism a week.
I however, believe there is a way out. I think we can all have our cake and eat it too. You can send both Robin and Guy into the darkness, yet redeem them with Marian's return say episode 4 or 5. Then they can have some additional fun by "haunting" Guy.
I don't think they will get much flack from the viewers if it's done that way. It is possible to have major guilt for Guy and MAJOR sorrow for Robin and then bring her back.
Forgive my rant. I'm just super pissed that they are killing Marian off. What a dumb decision. DUMB!
SJL
Hi Robin-
As you say we are sounding like cracked records but none of us seem able to move on do we?
You were just talking about Robin's final scenes again I feel the biggest problem with the whole of the last episode was (in my opinion) that it followed on straight after 12 instead of a weeks grace when we could all have discussed what we thought was going to happen it was there in our faces, NO proper build up to the crossing to the Holy Land(over land and sea in those days it used to take weeks!), they were just there none the worse for wear that's what made it surreal I thought, almost unbelievable almost as if they wanted to get it over with.
One niggling little thing I noticed about the last episode at the time it aired was that the CGI of them arriving in...was it Acre? the port where they theoretically got off the ship, at any rate...was badly done and obvious. You could tell they were, in effect, standing in front of a painted background on a set. Which wouldn't be an issue except that the CGI on this program is usually so good and seamless. It made me wonder if they produced the episode(s) in a hurry, start to finish, and didn't have time to clean up surface cracks like that. And if so, why?
I was always curious where the desert scenes were fimed, especially the one where the gang were hanging out to die! Was the sky a back drop there do you think?
Hi, Evielyn,
According to the DVD, the series 1 episode "Tattoo? What Tattoo?" was filmed at a sand quarry outside of Budapest. I think that's where the desert scenes in series 2 were filmed as well.
I agree with you about the abruptness of the transition to the Holy Land in episode 13. The editors or whoever could at least have inserted one of those "Two months later" tags at the beginning of the episode.
I think I could have handled Marian's death better (not much better, mind you) if she'd gone down fighting. At least that would have been in character.
Robin, to your good Robin/Marian moments, I'd add Robin using her hairpin to unlock the storehouse, Marian hanging from Will's trap at the outlaw's camp, Robin comforting Marian after her father's death.
Hi Annie & Robin -
I also liked Marian herself in the the last episode when she couldn't find Robin and she floored Allan, and although Robin seemed subdued I thought she was good over the final touching marriage vows adding a touch of gaiety into the pathos by being lighthearted although she knew she was dying "where were we? the last time we were dying"
There are lots of little moments that I can't recall but I am sure they will come to me at odd times that could be added to the other ones that you have both mentioned.
It still makes me angry at such a waste of storylines and a good actress. I do hope Lucy is fully happy with her decision and has no regrets. Its a cold cold world out there in showbiz land and I hope her agents are worth the money she is paying them and that they have some good work lined up for her.
Since we're talking about the final episode can someone explain to me why on earth the king would send Robin back to England w/o help or reinforcements? He clearly knows what's going on back home and all he can muster is a, "go forth and do things in my name." Come on! He's clearly aware of who the sherriff really is. Seems to me we're back at square one and poor Robin is sent home with half a gang.
Also, if Marian is truly dead then I really believe that she'll be back in spirit/ghost form visting both Robin and Guy. Rest assured we will see her in Season 3.
SJL
Hi everyone-
Still talking about the final episode I thought it strange that when Robin reached the King's camp no one recognised him only Carter! Surely there must have been people there who would have remembered him and Much !!
England still doesn't know what to do with King Richard, and therein lies the problem writers have if they're going to include him. (Better to miss him out altogether, as in Robin of Sherwood).
I've mentioned it many times, but "Robin and Marian" has a superb Richard, played by Richard Harris. A must see film.
hi ya all
been a while since i posted anything
but today found a new interview with lucy were she talks about her character again and her career and the public eye doesnt say anything new or have any hints about series 3 or her part but still a good read by any counts and its dated from yesterday
Hello!
I agree with Annie: her death could have been more sensible if she went down fighting Gisborne,for instance.
It's a bit ridiculous having a women dying virgin,dressed in white,in the XXIst century.
I don't know much about King Richard:I once read he showed the Church his repentance for being gay by going into the Crusades. I also read he only spent 9 months in England,during his reigning ,so it appears he wasn't that keen on becoming king of England.
LG's interviews hardly give a clue for the next series ,which is very understandable,but I'm still hoping she'll return.
Hi Everyone-
I used to live in Cyprus and over there we had the village of Berengaria where King Richard married Beregaria a lady of the same name (in fact the actual church was there as a tourist attraction!!) I have no idea if he was gay or not in fact it is only on this site that I have ever seen it mentioned.
The only early king I have ever heard of as being gay was William Rufus and he made no secret of it.
Rereading LG,s interview I get the inpression - maybe its me- that she is on the defensive concerning S3.ie: any decisions are joint ones somehow it doesn't ring true almost as if she has been told to say it - I'm most probably wrong its a gut feeling really.
King Richard wasn`t gay he was an appalling leecher and paedophile.He had no respect for females at all, used and abused regardless
I'm glad you said that Kitty only the rumour at Berengaria was that his wife had a dreadful life and she refused to go to England with him for that reason.
In fact I don't think that apart from the early days of their marriage that she even lived with him. I think it was a political affair anyway, Berengaria's father was helping to fund the war and his daughter was the prize!!
Historically,he is held up as some saviour because he was reputed to be an excellent soldier and defender of the christian faith .
Apparently ,the gay rumour was first propounded in 1948 drawing on Richard`s statement in 1191 that he had publicly repented "his sins against nature"but illicit acts could mean sex outside marriage .
I think Berengaria lived with him for short while after 1191 but it did not last long .
Richard of course was only in Nottingham once in his life .
Robin Hood legends are first mentionedin 1521in the scots writer John Major`s book "The History of Greater Britain "
he sets the Robin Hood legends in the time of Richard .
In the cureent R,H for a bit of authenticity it would have been rather brilliant to use some aspects of Eleanor of Aquitaine`s characteristics as Marian influence.
I cannot find the new L.G interviw does she mention if she has any work at all?
Evielyn,
There is a certain "tone" in that interview. I wonder, if she was pushed, she thinks it better to take half the credit for that decision unless future employers wonder about her ability or temperament?
As far as I'm concerned she was stunning in all the difficult and emotional scenes which came her way. The evidence is there for all to see.
Kitty,
I think it important to stress here that, if King Richard was gay, no-one here thinks that a "sin against nature", and that the words you are quoting from Richard are to be taken in context with the feelings of those times.
He is credited even by his enemies as being a charismatic and effective soldier. The problem I and many have with him is not that he was a "defender" of the Christian faith, but that in the Crusades he went and attacked a faith system that was not attacking "us".
new Lucy Griffiths interview
is now edited into the post. That line "When an actress is known more for being famous than the roles she plays, she can find herself without much of a career" is the sad one for me. After all, there was only 1 series to go. (And I doubt neither Roger Moore nor David McCallum would agree with that sentiment. Both have had about 6 or 7 star roles each in running movies / TV series).
Hi Robin
Illicit acts could have meant sexual acts outwith marriage .
They saw invovement in the crusades as protecting their faith and therefore, endorsing their individual spiritual worthiness.My point is that Richard was in many ways a dispicable human being , but because he was charging about in the crusades , people ignored his human fraility , had he not be such an attractive figure to many his reputation would not have survived.
Re your last comment Martin Shaw ,Robert carlyle to add to your list
I have just read the post -I think it is so sad .
look at Bilie Pipers career to date
The quote against nature was taken from the twelth century , if anyone is really interested i can supply a list of people that are worthwhile reading .
Separate to that R.H could you explain please the way in which people were depicted in art at that time .
Many thanks
My goodness, what a huge question.
Well, in the 11th century there was no oil paint, and paper was still being imported into Europe from the middle east. Art involved the depiction of religious themes, and conveyed these messages about the glory of God (and Royalty), to the people. The true art form of the day was probably more the architecture, which pursued the concept of ever higher arches and spires towards heaven.
If you look at the depiction of a person in medieval art, they look rather "flat", with very little individual character:
http://catholic-resources.org/Images/Evangelists/4Ev-Trier.gif
To depict an actual portrait one needs a painting medium capable of a range of tones, and an understanding of muscle and bone structure. In these works the message was more important than the technique. There was no concept yet of "perspective", no painting materials which would facilitate subtle shadows and form (even if they'd wanted to), and no real concept of an individual artist like a Da Vinci, a Raphael, etc. that came a couple of hundred years later.
Women were not involved in art at all; it requiring an apprenticeship if a young boy showed potential. There were of course no schools or colleges for these skills. (Whilst we're on the subject, you'd be surprised at how recent women enter the art world. It's not really until the late 19th century their names appear, and as late as the early 20th century there were still strict rules about what they were and were not allowed to draw in the Royal Academy life classes in London).
I read Lucy's comment about an actor being known more for being famous than for the roles she plays differently. I took this to be a reference to performers like Lindsey Lohan whose extracurricular exploits get much more attention than their work. The quote comes right after Lucy acknowledges that an actor has to get her face in the press but for the right reasons. I don't think she's saying she was afraid of being typecast as Marian. Rather, she's saying quite the opposite, which is that the role and not the actor herself is what's important. I think this is a sign of LG's maturity.
Hi Everyone - I have just caught up with Lucy's new interview as Kitty says its so sad! There are so many actresses who have done well these days on TV. Even from the soaps some have gone on from strength to strength.
I think she is protesting too much. She still hasn't said what she is doing surely in such a cut throat business out of sight is out of mind?
Although I think she was brilliant as Marian her expressions alone in some scenes did it for me. I do wonder WHAT exactly she is after!!
As I've said before I also wonder what about her Agents are they are looking out for her as well as they should.
Glad to see RH is back in October the way the year is flying by it won't be long to wait
Annie,
Good point, I can see what you mean.
I am totally bursting with gossip , but I need a second piece of confirmation . Apparently, Ms. Griffiths is with the rest of the cast .I cannot supply anything that would authenticate this piece of information apart from previous information has always been reliable .
R.H why were the pictures non representative of size . e,g Rich people looked disproportiate in size to poor people .
R.h Do you have acquantances in glasgow?
What an interesting concept art was in those early days all the colours would had to have been mixed, I suppose they only had the primary colours then to get the hues and of course to get even a look of an individual sometimes I suppose it would have to have been done from memory.
Where were the young boys sent to for apprenticeships was it all within the church, as there were no schools?
Kitty,
If you look at Asian art there is no adherence to proportion and perspective. The emphasis is more on decoration and story telling. The "Willow Pattern" on plates being a good example.
Correct proportions, and perspective, came in with the Renaissance in the late 13th - 16th centuries. This is when artists adopted a more scientific approach, even using lenses (newly discovered) to project the model onto the canvas to draw around it. But of course, even here the main religious figures and royalty were poised most importantly. Its all a kind of propaganda.
You don't really get "normal" everyday people used as a subject for art until the 19th century, and then especially in the Impressionists. Before that artists were really bound to paint what they were paid to paint by their patrons, who in turn were either Popes or landowners.
Okay - enough art already. My head's hurting!
"acquaintances in Glasgow?" Nope. I'm a Sherwood Forester, born and bred.
Evielyn,
Well, even when oil paint was invented (c.15 century) it had to be mixed. (No tubes 'til c.19th century). So a typical apprenticeship task would be mixing colours and making brushes, etc. Such boys would work in the artists studios, observing, some modelling, stoking the fire, general all round stuff as they came up through the ranks I suppose.
I imagine a lot of what has been preserved from those Catholic times, when paint was so impermanent and subject to fading through the years, also had links to the monasteries.
Fascinating -I have an understanding of the development of the languages and through translation prominent works letters ,books etc ,Hence a knowledge about Richard .
But the art of medieval time is an area I know absoloutely nothing about .
i am thinking ghosts about Marian or L.G makes an appearance as her sister or long lost cousin.
I think i will give it a miss-anyone with the same thoughts ?
Kitty,
I will be watching with an open mind, and keeping a fresh blog for series 3. (See sidebar for link).
But I really feel we saw the best of the Jonas Robin with series 1. I haven't purchased yet, but when I do I think I may well stop at that one to add to my Robin Hood library.
Like you Robin I am keeping an open mind on S3. I do so hope that we don't have Ghosts as I think it will get silly, But as Kitty says a sister we have never heard of? I don't think I will have the same interest in it. I do like Jonas though and he will be my main reason for watching.
I do wonder though Robin what Jonas's thoughts and feelings are on the developments of his character He has keep a very low profile hasn't he?
Evielyn,
As you say, a very low profile.
Given Jonathan Ross's interest in Robin Hood, why no interview on his chat show?
Given Lucy's obvious beauty, why no paparazzi?
Why no film premiere appearances?
Why no chat show appearances for the up and coming cast members in general? (We got Keith Allen publicising his book on 2 TV shows plus scottish radio, but Robin Hood seemed to be the very last thing anyone talked about).
The only two cast members who have really spoken much at all are Lucy and Richard Armitage. They don't say much, but each has unreservedly declared their admiration for the others' qualities as an actor and a colleague.
One can't help but feel, no matter how much we the converted love the Jonas version, that the world at large has not been impressed...
For better or for worse, I'm hooked on this show. I'm not even sure exactly why, but I think it's primarily because I've become attached to the young cast.
Being older and having sons who are the same age as the gang probably has something to do with it. Even when the show itself is silliest or most irritating, the players look as though they're having such fun that I find watching it a pleasure.
So, whether we're in for ghosts, long-lost sisters, Marian being conjured from the dead by Mathilda, or some other travesty, I'll no doubt be watching.
Oh, and definitely not least, I'd miss having a reason to visit this site and talk to other hoodies.
Annie- You have summed up in a nut shell why I will be watching as well. My youngest son is exactly the same age as Jonas to the day New year babies both (so I have always had a soft spot for him His smile is to die for) and I have an older one as well.
I love visiting this site everyone is so nice and the work that you have done on it Robin is absolutely brilliant so much dedication.
I am with Annie all the way , Marian being brought back by Matilda that's good, as long as Guy pays the price I don't care. May be the producers etc have been listening to all the bad vibes and that is why its so quiet they are busy writing something really fantastic.
As you say they all used to be having so much fun and that's how we should all look at it. Its good to talk sensibly about things that we all enjoy.
Well, firstly I have to say I'm still not convinced Lucy will show up.
But...
"Long lost sister" sounds as awful as "ghost" in my opinion.
If the series had been a "Xena" or a "Hercules" from the start, I wouldn't mind. It can be fun. But it wasn't like that.
I suppose if "ghost" were translated as "illusion brought on by madness", and only Guy sees her, that might be different...
Oh and what about tonight's breaking news about Russell T Davies quiting Doctor Who as both writer and exec producer? He did a great job, but must have done all he can now.
Hi, Robin,
Just to clarify, I didn't mean to suggest that I'd be especially pleased to have Marian showing up as a "long-lost sister" or a ghost or whatever (though I can't help wanting Lucy back). I was just trying to convey that I'm sure I'll be watching regardless of what the writers churn out. I don't actually think that the show is "fixable," at least with respect to the Robin Hood legend, but I think I'll find the actors entertaining regardless. There's also the car wreck aspect--I can't seem to turn away from the scene of the accident!
Evielyn, what a fun coincidence that you and Robin both have sons the exact same age as Jonas!
Hi Robin -
I think a ghost has to be the theme we go with to haunt Guy! I suppose clips from previous scenes could be used in that capacity so that would be easy enough to do a bit of pasting and cutting!!
I have never held with a sister or long lost cousin of Marian's as they have never been mentioned in the past, but I would love to see Matilda in S3 as I feel she has an awful lot of mileage in her story line. She wasn't really explored in the one episode she was in.She could make things happen for Robin.
Things do need to IMPROVE for him BIG TIME . and Yes Annie it is the car crash syndrome We can't move away can we!! (wanting Lucy back)
Hi Robin-
I think the legend such as we know it has long gone from the show, because of the events that happened, but I do like the actors they always seem to be having such fun regardless of what they are doing and it will be interesting to see who the new characters are. Robin does need some new recruits!!
It won't be too long to wait to see. This year is moving along so fast
Don't get me wrong, I love innovations within the legend.
For example, the addition of Nazir in Robin of Sherwood was pure genius, and Djaq carried that tradition so well.
The idea of Alan A Dale telling gags (and "white lies"), instead of singing, was down right welcome. And whilst I hope he isn't seen from now on as a "Judas", I thought Joe Armstrong was stunning in the role.
The Nightwatchman was this series' only truly new idea (apart from the stupid one of killing Marian!), and that was excellent too. I think we'll be seeing the Night Watchman again, whether Lucy's there or not. (Spin off series to be had).
And this version of Much, as Robin's right hand man rather than "the Miller's son" was another fine stroke. Maybe because Sam Troughton was so very good.
So yes, I love innovation. I love the development of the legend.
But not to the extent of murdering Marian, and even less the concept of her coming back as a ghost, or "twin sister"...
I suppose if "ghost" were translated as "illusion brought on by madness", and only Guy sees her, that might be different...
That's what I'm betting on. That, and maybe flashbacks.
Oh, and about RTD quitting Doctor Who: This may be hitting the news because it's an official announcement by the BBC about who his replacement will be, but he said in interviews months ago that he'd be leaving on the schedule announced today. The question was, who would replace him, and what was this "series of specials" all about? It's about easing the new team in before they have to start churning out a episode a week! Steve Moffat has written some of the best episodes of New Who, and the fan response I've read has been quite positive.
Hello all!
Marian is going to return :jmp:!
I think the wisest option is to show us some healer found by Djaq bringing Marian back.
So far,RH avoided mysticism,magic and superstition,and suddenly adding that would be out of context,in my opinion. So,that would exclude ghosts,too. I hope she returns like a real Marian,pursuing her fight for justice and staying with Robin,but keeping always that ambiguity towards Guy :D.
Also,this RH's Middle Age is way too clean and rational,and,sometimes I feel I'm watching something which the soundtrack could be Joy Division: a "country-depressive" environment.I think it lacks a bit of mystery,a bit of enchantment.
I've read about Richard being gay in Rosa Montero's book, "Historia del rey transparente",not translated into english. It's a brilliant romance passed on the Middle Age ( yes,it's dragons and elven free) and she consulted highly reliable sources,like Jacques LeGoff's works.
Hi DC,
Yes, I think Steve Moffat is good. It was funny how the news flash cut into everything else on their 24 hour station! I have to say though, the Doctor's daughter needs a good slap! And I don't like that idea because it detracts from the uniqueness of the Doctor and the Master.
Hi Coralina,
You say you think "mysticism, magic and superstition" should continue to be avoided because they would now be "out of context". I agree. But don't you think Djaq finding a healer to make Marian rise from the grave is mystic? It sounds like Voodoo and the Living Dead. I may not sleep tonight!!!!
But more "mystery, a bit of enchantment"? Yes indeed. I think everyone here wants to see Matilda back in the show for a few episodes.
I was at Glasgow uni with Stephen moffat , really liked him . Stunned at the news about Russell T, though .
I am convinced ahe will be a ghost or a relaive if she is back . Change of hair colour in the featurettes
Hi Robin - I loved the whole Idea of Much I think he was so loyal to Robin a really good friend He stuck by him in everything.
The Night Watchman was great as well. That was a good story line in your Fantasy in the Forest to do with her that would be good if something along those lines was used.
It will be a Shame if Anjuli doesn,t come back as well as Lucy.
It will be an all male domain Fancy That!!
There will be some actress or other listed on the web who is going into R.H ,we just have to find her.
Richards reputation was that of a womaniser.
Chroniclers such as Guisborough,Newburgh despite admiring Richards military tactics
heavily ctiticised his aggressive womanising.
He borrowed his lords wives , daughters handing them to his troops as toys when they bored him.
There is no contemporary evidence to support the idea that Richard was a homosexual .
But there is plenty in relation to William Longchamp .
The way things are going Dr Who might as well turn up on R.H -probably make more sense than what has happened
Hey Kitty,
You're the one who said: "Apparently, Ms. Griffiths is with the rest of the cast .I cannot supply anything that would authenticate this piece of information apart from previous information has always been reliable".
And now "some actress or other"?
Oh well...
And that Doctor Who meets robin Hood idea? Don't joke about it. It's already been kind of done in Star Trek the Next Generation. And the more I think about it.... I'd love it if the Doctor met Robin. it would kind of prove he existed. (And in Nottingham!!!!)
HI R.H.
I still stick with the hope that maybe BBC will bring Marian back. Here's how I think she should be brought back:
The part in E.12? 13? (can't quite remember) where Robin and his gang were tied up to the posts in the desert, that bit is real. Then when robin sees Marian, that is just a dream because Robin has passed out.
I know that it is being hopeful. Possibly to hopeful.
I hope that my explanation was clear!!!
I've one question, (I understand if you don't want to answer it),
where did you get the muisic that plays on your blog from?
Oh, and do you know if it is possible to buy the muisic that was playing when Much Ran up the hill and saw the 'King' (in series 1)? 'Cause I really like it!
Thanks.
BTW you're dong really well to write stuff about the show when there is so little information!!!
Regards,
Emily
Hi Emily,
First of all thanks for the kind comments, but the truth is I can only write stuff here because of the amazing support from people in these comment boxes. I've said it before, but I don't envy the fan sites for people like Lucy and Jonas. Their sites are excellent, and obviously run by dedicated people. But whereas I'm a fan of every Robin Hood (to varying degrees),those people are dependant on information about very specific actors. It can't be easy.
Your idea fro bringing back Marian, that her death was an illusion caused by Jonas's fever, is really the only feasible one as far as I can see. That he wakes up, and that Carter has rescued them all. Time will tell.
The music on my blog is taken from the broadcast. (Video camera plugged into the TV / windows movie maker / save sound only). I've not heard the rest of the CD, but maybe the Much track you like is on it. Very cheap from Amazon.co.uk at the moment:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Robin-Hood-Price-Danubia-So/dp/B000JYW5KK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1211413264&sr=1-1
Unless the new characters are all male -I dearly hope not . Turning into a football team. R.A , Commisioning editot _Jane have all said there would be new characters . I therefore, presummed that there might be a female amongst them , therefore, her involvement would be in some information on the web . I , therefore, started looking at all the obvious sites for new B,B, C productions . looked at the cast list , looked up the name to see if there was any other work listed . After ten minutes I was very bored and then gave up .
I am quite happy to e mail you if you wish about the origins of the Lucy info -but i wouldn`t put in on the blog.
We need Jonathan Ross to get some answers
I think it's complete pants that they killed Marian off (whether played by Lucy Griffiths or someone else, but LG was pretty damn good!) and I think it's a decision the writers will live to regret in series 3, but I suppose we should keep an open mind and see what stunning story lines they are allegedly going to come up with that are going to wow us all so much (their contention being that they were somehow forced to kill of Marian to keep the story alive and the viewers watching - doh!).
But I've gone all girlie now and can't bear the thought of Robin snogging some other floozy - he belongs to Marian and that's all there is to it!!
Love this blogspot, btw.
Fi
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Hi Everyone - I have just had a chuckle to myself when I read what Fi has to say.
I wondered myself when I read that the BBC were forced to kill of Marian to keep the storyline moving (Where to I asked myself!)and to keep the story alive (I didn't think it was exactly dying in the first place!) Seems like protesting too much to me.
So it was good to see that someone agrees with us all on this site.
I would have thought that snogging both Jonas and Richard would have been enough to make Lucy want to stay!
I mean to say the choice of two nice looking guys what is a girl to do? make the most of it I would have thought.
As you say though, Robin canoodling in the forest with someone else ....
The floosie will come through
Nottingham in a paddle steamer .Robin will be cannodling a ghost .ce
Seriously,chaps imagine in this d ay and age getting that level of popularity and throwing it away nuts . The men are nice -all very pretty , good actors.
Talkabout not reading your audience
Most definately not the audience has not been considered at all. I always thought that the popularity stakes were everything I am obviously wrong.
And here's another thought:
Unless he's signed already, there's no way Harry Lloyd will want to step back into an ailing (dying?) show.
I wonder if Jonas is regretting the prospect of a third series? And is it closing his options down regarding other auditions, etc.?
Hi Robin - Just read the "new" Lucy interview and as you say it says a lot about nothing at all.
It still seems to me that for someone so young she is on the defensive all the time, and I wonder why. What is it that she really wants she actually doesn't say does she?
There are so many young Actresses ( good, bad and indifferant) going the rounds at the moment in differant shows, its seems so strange that her name has never even been mentioned as being "put forward" for a role, even if she turned it down gossip good or bad is usually picked up isn't it?
Hi, All,
Just to play devil's advocate a bit, I wonder if we're being a little melodramatic about the stakes here. Those of us who are huge fans not only of the show but of the legend are chagrinned about the direction the show has taken, but those who see the show as a job might not be quite as concerned. I doubt Harry, Lucy, or Jonas regret being connected with a show that has raised their profiles worldwide. They're young, newbie actors making a lot of money and having a good bit of fun doing it.
Even when the show was at its best, I read lots of critical reviews and posts saying that it was hopelessly campy (and not in a good way), Jonas was a weak Robin, the writing was horrid, etc. I didn't agree--I just mention this because it's par for the course if you're an actor.
I still think that Lucy's odd tone in the reviews is because she can't give things about season 2 or 3 away. I think it's natural that neither she nor the BBC/Tiger Aspect wants to take full responsibility for an unpopular decision. Lucy's under the additional constraint of not wanting to burn her bridges with large corporations that may hire her in the future.
Evielyn,
I don't think these "interviewers" have had any any contact with lucy for quite some time.
What's happening is a cut and paste job from various previous statements. The original one about "not being a damsel in distress", and the later one about "shared decisions".
But this in itself is illuminating, because it goes to show the media (who take public interest and sales into account), know it's Lucy people wanted to hear about.
Hi Annie,
I agree it is "just a job" for an actor or writer, and I blame no-one for wanting to ove on. But, where that job still stood to provide a lucrative income for broadcasters, I remain surprised someone didn't plan ahead better for the future. A spin-off series, or even a series 4 (if intended), would have to deal with all this discontent and negativity. That needn't have happened. Marian's death left us with a blip in the history of the Legend. Never to be repeated. It won't be a lasting, creative contribution like a Saracen outlaw in Sherwood, or an angry "Scarlet inside" Will.
Certainly the show had its fair share of critics. I've raised this issue before in these boxes, that we might like the Jonas version (I certainly do), but there are many who prefer their Robin in Lincoln green and swinging from a vine. As for the writing, well, 'nuff said. Lack of continuity ultimately screwed up a series of very emotionally powerful cameo scenes.
As for Lucy's tone, as I said above, I don't think she's there most of the time. These guys are going through old statements and piecing their articles together. No-on will convince me she's sat somewhere now promoting Robin Hood. But yes, again as I've mentioned before, she's not going to burn her bridges with the BBC. In this country no relationship with the BBC equals no work.
Hi All
I also saw the poor reviews for RH in the 1st series about how Richard would have made a better Robin and that it was too far fetched with the trick shots etc of the Arrows! (although as Robin was reknowned with a bow he may well have done that I always felt.
I also saw one of the few interviews that Jonas ever did ( that I have read ) and he said he couldn't believe his luck when he landed the role as he was so differant from any other actors who played him in the past and later he also said he was so concerned when he hurt his foot that they had to shut down filming until he was fit again that he would lose the part! But he has been filming hasn't he, so for him it is only a stepping stone as he is upwards and onwards good for him too.
Harry is/or has been doing other things as well hasn't he ? Its still only Lucy around whom all the speculation stills surrounds
Just to play devil's advocate a bit, I wonder if we're being a little melodramatic about the stakes here.
I'd say so. I'd also say we're being a bit melodramatic about the "secrecy." At this point last year--between series--did we have much in the way of publicity? I don't think so. So I don't know that we're hearing any less than we have before. I just feels that way because of the ending.
I also think that, not only is this just a job in some respects for the actors, they also have real lives to handle, away from the BBC, that affect the professional decisions they make. And I wonder if that's entered into it all. When I read the Lucy Griffiths interviews and hear her DVD commentaries, I'm always struck by how very young and tentative she seems. She talks about how never went to university or to drama school and this Very Big Adventure sounds to be is her first time really away from home. So here she is, in Hungary for six months of the year (which has it's appeal but also its stresses, language differences not the least of them), with much of the weight of an expensive TV series on her teenage shoulders, having to learn a lot of the basics of TV acting on the job. Meanwhile, I read the Richard Armitage interviews and listen to the male actors on the commentaries, and it seems like a big part of the appeal for them of doing this show is the camaraderie the guys have from being, well, guys, with comparable experience, at a comparable age, at comparable stages of their career, hanging out together in bars after work and playing cricket together between takes. But while Lucy hasn't complained and everybody seems to get along fine, she's also indicated she doesn't get in on that fun because she's shooting when they aren't and vice versa, and because just about the only people she works with are Richard Armitage (twice her age), Keith Allen (three times her age), Michael Elwyn (more than three times her age) and Jonas. She doesn't even get to work with the only other woman in the show, Anjali Jay, or hang out with her between scenes because of their conflicting shooting schedule.
Now of course there are far worse fates she could endure, and, like I said, everybody seems to get along fine and respects each other, which makes a HUGE difference. But it also sounds like it could be a kind of lonely, stressful life and maybe she just doesn't want to do it anymore.
Now, I don't know any more than any of the rest of you. I'm just saying that kind of thing affects casting decisions as much as story ideas or salary disputes or anything else, just as it affects the career decisions anybody else makes in any other field. And it's something to keep in mind.
"But it also sounds like it could be a kind of lonely, stressful life and maybe she just doesn't want to do it anymore."
I think (as always) you make a lot of good points.
Me? I've finally got my hands on "Wolfshead", the 4th and final Robin Hood film from Hammer. So treats for me when I can find time to watch and review. It looks good!
"I've finally got my hands on "Wolfshead", the 4th and final Robin Hood film from Hammer."
Hammer did Robin Hood??? Wow! I've seen Hammer horror movies and, I think, Hammer sci-fi, but Robin Hood? That should be a hoot! (Watch Robin find vampires in Sherwood Forest....)
No Vampires, DC, but that certain "Hammer" style is there somehow:
http://robinhoodoutlaw.blogspot.com/2006/06/hammer-films-of-robin-hood.html
Folow the links in the above post to see more.
Robin,
Thanks for replying!
The Amazon link has been VERY helpful! Before I buy the CD a friend lent me her one (wich I didn't know she had) and I have listened to it three times through! Absolutely LOVE the soundtracks!
*Long live Andy Price*
Regards,
Emily
fi,
I'm totally with you;
*Robin snogging some other floozy - he belongs to Marian and that's all there is to it!!*
I seriously would not have thought that Robin would have been taken in by Sarah and the 'Mother Superior', but I guess that the writters had to add a 'sweetner' as such, so that we and others could see that Robin isn't all good, (not that it was really bad).
Hi Everyone
I read with interest dcwash,s comments about Lucy being in a man's world and wonder if that might be the case. It must be very blokey out there and to quote another actress from another film (if I may Robin on you site)
Liv Tyler said during one of her interviews about Lord of the Rings
that although she loved the part and the story, she was in New Zealand far from home and spent long days on her own as she was only needed for filming on odd days and subsequently felt very lonely and out of it.
My point is if Liv could feel like that and she is a famous and established actress maybe poor Lucy did feel homesick and on her own.
I am going to watch Robin amd Marian this afternoon haven't seen it for ages and its such a rotten day really Bank Holiday weather !!
I have never heard of Wolfhead Wow! some thing else to look out for
robinhood2006.com has posted that there is going to be a friar tuck...but the source was the daily mail or something so like everything a pinch of salt!
The link for the above that Firefly has mentioned is
http://robinhood2006.com/main/modules/news/articles.php/storyid=204
And it says that the Daily Express says that David Harewood (The Palace, Rudy in the Smoke and Blood Diamond)has joined the cast of Robin Hood
Firefly,
Thanks for passing that on. We know a Friar Tuck was "expected" by the controller of the BBC, in series 2. He apparently went back on earlier concerns regarding "political correctness". I remember posting at the time that just because the Friar was overweight, he was certainly no object of fun.
Evielyn,
I don't think the link works for non-members?
Anyway, I think David Harewood would be an outstanding addition to the cast. He's excellent; and a strong screen presence.
hello
i read the blogs occasionally becuase i love to hear whats happening especially after the tragic death of marian. but i think David Harewood joining te cast as friar tuck must be true becuase it's on the hello magazine website. although is that reliable
Hi Everyone
I am so pleased to think that at last we are getting Friar Tuck ( we should have had him from the beginning!) Perhaps the producers/writers etc. are thinking that as they have killed of Marian they had better leave us with something of the legend
Thanks for everyone's thoughts about Friar Tuck. I've posted a new fun poll to gather them.
It still seems very quiet in the media though...
Evielyn, Certainly I agree we should have had Tuck from day one. Certain writers thought they were bigger than the legend? If so they should go write their own.
If David Harewood is Tuck ? Then who or what on earth is the new evil character ? R.A`s comments -new characters .
Harewood was really good in the recent drama with Robert Carlyle .
I find the whole casting arena bizarre to say the least -do they just swap actors between dramas .
Sorry for being so blunt but (deep breath) Who cares about Friar Tuck being P.C.?
This is a ledgend and (sadly) a very P.C. world we live in!!!
Sorry again for being so blunt but this has been on the tip of my tongue for ever-so-long and...
I'm going to bed.
Regards,
Emily
it is great we are getting a friar tuck it truly is but i hope the writers dont think this is going to compensate for losing marian/lucy because it doesnt she was still a big part of the legend and i hope they dont think we are just going to forget about her now that someone else is coming in and that we will forgive them now even if time has moved on since then
It will be very interesting as Kitty says to see whom the NEW evil character will be.
I was hoping for Prince John but that still leaves Robin with few men and not a woman in sight!!
If Tuck is joining the cast then surely it would be too corny to have an evil woman again i.e. Sheriff's sister thats been done to death...
I think I am losing the will to live here I shall go and do something else....
ive just had some teriable news about are girl apparently on lucys offical forum it says that she might be in dorset in june to film a movie called UB-dead i read a bit about it and its a very modern film this is bad news indeed if its true hope not but will see it broke my heart when i read it i couldnt believe it after all this time i hate to admitt it but i didnt want her to do anything else yet there was more hope of her doing robin hood when she wasnt up for anything else
Hi Robin-
To confirm what has just been published I found this in my email this morning from robinhood2006.com posted by Lady Wolfshead at 10.40am on 08/06/2008
I Quote- Lucy Griffiths is to star in a new ITV drama entitled U be dead
The drama is based on true life events surrounding the story of Maria Marchesa a dangerous stalker
Lucy will be starring along side English actor David Morrisey most recently seen as Colonel Brandon in Sense and Sensibility- unquote
She really is turning out to be a very versatile actress It sounds interesting don't you think so ?
Found out a bit more Tara Fitzgerald and Monica Dolan also star and Lucy plays the other woman to Tara's fiance David Morrisey with whom he falls in love. Monica Dolan plays the stalker. It sounds very good and is filming in London and Dorset this month
Tara Fitzgerald and David Morrissey? She's in good company there. More power to her!
ETA: I found a press release from ITV that confirms it.
http://www.itv.com/PressCentre/Pressreleases/Programmepressreleases/DavidMorrisseystarsinthetruestoryofadangerousstalkerinUBeDead/default.html
(That link should be clickable.)
That is all really interesting It should be a good drama as you say they are all good actors/actresses.
So good luck to her I am glad she has been able to move on. Our loss is their gain it was disappionting how she was written out of RH and I will always feel it could have been done much better but its time to move on now although it has taken her a while to find something she wants to do.
I don't know how these things work perhaps its been in the pipeline for ages signing up people etc. Is it a one off drama or a serial?
Hi Evelyn & DCWash,
And thanks as always for the input. (I've not bee around the pc too much lately).
Whilst I can understand some fans being upset, I have to say this is great news for those of us who were so impressed by her work on Robin hood, and wanted to know she'd successfully moved on to other projects. I'll be watching it for sure! (Tara Fitzgerald and Lucy Griffiths in one programme? Wow!)
There's even a Robin Hood link, for those of you who like trivia: David Morrissey played a scouse Little john in the 1991 movie "Robin Hood". (One of my favourite Hood films):
http://robinhoodtree.blogspot.com/2006/08/robin-hood-1991-film-review.html
Anyway, as you all say, she's alongside an excellent cast. Great news. Go Lucy!
A sliver of the new L.G information was placed on this blog some time ago . It was suggested that the main male lead would be the Hornblower Chap
I would guess it will be a seriel or at the very least in two parts .
Since they start filming late June - L.G`s character Bethan appears to be a character that would will be introduced much later on.
This new information would not impact on L.G`s ability to perform Marian.
I would be totally amazed if she does not make an appearance even as a ghost because ultimately the B>B>C. will be loathe to turn their back on such p[opularity and by deafult a money making machine.
Hi Everyone-
As I said on this site before it's a shame the way Lucy's was written out It could have been done very easily in lots of better ways then killing her off I have often wondered what feed back the BBC got over it it can't have been very good.
Someone said somewhere can't think where that RH2 had two endings why was this do you think?
I haven't read anywhere yet of any new female leads in RH ( as a supposedly new love interest !!) has anyone else ?
I don't remember the case of the London stalker in U Be dead although it appears to be very recent (head in the clouds I guess!!)It does sound good with an excellent cast Lucy will have no fear of being type cast will she?
Kitty & Evielyn,
No other Marian has EVER captured the fans imagination and interest like Lucy Griffiths. Not ever. (And I know, I've seen 'em all!)
I'm happy for the Lucy people that they've got some new information and a new project to be moving into. They do a great job.
Dear All
Marian captured the imagination because her character was fuelled by unselfishness . duty and devotion .
This type of character stands against the accepted and expected norm of angst driven powerless females .
Through L.G`s skill- Marian became a multi-faceted individual -we knew what to expect . But in the disasterous last episode where Marian comes across as being unhinged -knowing the death of the Sheriff would lead to the death of many but still tries to kill him , despite having spent the last two series saving lives
, coupled with that ridiculous speech threw the character up in the air . This exposed not only the programme and L.G as vunerable but to a lesser degree forced us -the audience to adopt a less passive role due to our indignation about the unrealistic fate of a not fully explored character reinforced with our personal outrage that the B.B.C who take our licence fees expect us to sit and absorb such pap.
Then the excellent actor who entertained us well disappears without trace for almost a year making us angry at the total injustice .
Sorry that anonymous above was me -kitty
Kitty,
Amen to all of that. The result of such a poorly conceived (misconceived) ending for me has been my developing cynical approach to a lot more of the series as a whole...
I've yet to post an overall review for series 2 on the main www.robinhoodblog.com site, but I will be doing, just as I reviewed the Connery version of Robin of Sherwood separate from the Praed.
Hi Everyone
How much I agree with you Kitty Even though its done and dusted and Lucy has moved on I still feel that we have been robbed. As I have said before (many times) I do wonder how they will work around the legend now or if they will even try!!
There are new scriptwriters and producers I know but to what avail they certainly have a job on their hands owing to all the bad publicity the BBC and the cast ( Richard especially) have received over that killing!!
We still don't know all the cast or even if Harry is coming back. Lucy disappeared as you say for months without a murmur. I still wonder about the true story there but I guess it will never be truly known what really happened.
Ah! well another of the great mysteries of the universe
Chaps -do we want to find out or do we want to wait?
I think some basic reliable information is fine.
Very detailed "spoilers" we'll continue to avoid here.
As soon as we know a lot more we'll all move over to the Series 3 blog (already linked and reserved on the sidebar).
good idea!
Just brilliant Robin! I do like to know a certain amount, but not too much. Can hardly wait for it all to take off.
Maybe we can start a Series 3 cast list betting pool. My bet? Harry Lloyd comes back. Anjali Jay doesn't. David Harewood does play Friar Tuck. The dark horse is Lucy Griffiths. I'm laying 3:5 odds on a few brief appearances as one of Guy's guilt-driven hallucinations.
DCwash
I agree with all those guesses and predictions, but, the big question is: What reason is given for Djaq failing to return?
1. She's been killed in action? (A bit too soon after Marian).
2. Died of a disease?
3. Divorce? (I don't think anyone did divorce in those days, and not a muslim).
4. Trial separation?
5. Will keeps leaving the top off the toothepaste and the toilet seat up?
6. None of the above. Will is only home to help Robin and deliver some news about the Wars. He returns to an unseen Djaq at the end of series 3.
This is good How about a bit of fun?
Reasons for Will coming home alone
1/ Too much sand (gets in everywhere!) and too much sun
2/ Misses the Rain, Cold and Wind of Sherwood!
3/ Too many Wretched BIRDS!!!
4/ Can't get a council House
5/ Missses all the blokes and doing Blokey things !!
But your no6/ Robin is most probably the best bet
And most definately some MEGA Guy Hallucinations now matter how brief and also a few sad hauntings for Robin as well
I love this one:
/ Can't get a council House
But here are mine.
1. Djaq decides there are more drawbacks than benefits to the the ten-year age difference between her and Will, and she kicks him to the curb.
2. Will comes to the realization that his True Love is actually back in Sherwood.
3. He could never be happy in a country with so little wood to carve.
4. Sand fleas.
5. The bloody muezzin calls drive him mad.
6. (I'm semi-serious about this on, meaning I can see them going this route and think it might actually be a good plot twist.) Djaq dies, tragically, in childbirth. The death is partly related to the rejection they received from both the European/Christian and native/Muslim communities of the Crusade-era Middle East, neither of which could countenance a mixed marriage.
Hi Everyone--
To continue with Will and Djac
No 1/I agree about the Muezzin call that would drive anyone to drink!!!
Which brings me to
No 2/ unable to drink I mean being a muslim country and all... So Will takes to going out and staying out everynight down at Dickie's place the affectionate name they all give to the Kings Camp where he can play (the 11th century equivalent to Pool and Darts)with his new found friends old mates of Robin's and Much's!!
3/ Finds he misses his Aunty Annie.
4/ What you have suggested dcwash is a very good story line because on a serious note the marriage would never have worked. In those days as the culture shock would have been far to great,and Djac's family would never never have agreed to it ,apart from the aspects of being at war with the Holy Land and the Religious problems of the time, Will would have found himself an outlaw there as well.
So sadly I think that it really would all have ended in tears.
Everyone!
These comments about Will and Djaq have been cracking me up. I reckon the third series blog should continue with a regular input of frivolity like this.
Sienna Millar as Marian ? aw well it will Be Mickey Mouse as Robin next
reguarding one of my last comments about friar tuck being put in and about the bbc doing it to make us forget about marian i believe now that is exactly what their doing as someone else mentioned in there own words somewhere else
what to stop them now they done everything else wrong reguarding marian why not do some more damage marian was more important to the legend than tuck was anyway
just read an article from the sun totally not reliable about robin hood and apparently the sheriff is going to get killed of next season by robin and his men {isnt that what we wanted anyway}
keith allen is again {apparently}over in budapest filming the grisly scenes now
this means for all those people who wanted there to be more series i doubt it will happen, how could you go on without a villian. there was also alittle quote from him saying he is excited about it and if its his time to go he wants to go out with a big bang
looks like the bbc might be doing something right for once and not drag it out. {sad though}
not to say they wont do it again with a new cast possibly
anonymous
The loss of a Sheriff is never a problem, because it's not a character, it's a badge of office.
In the original ballads Robin kills a couple of them, and even in the 1950's Richard Greene version there was a change of Sheriff as one replaced the other's position in Nottingham.
Keith Allen is great, but he would be replaced "easily", like a Mayor.
Kitty,
The Sienna Miller as Marian news seems now to be quite official. I was also surprised. But then again, I felt the same about Uma Thurman, and she proved to be one of my favourite Marians:
http://robinhoodtree.blogspot.com/2006/08/robin-hood-1991-film-review.html
Has anybody seen this yet? It's a MAJOR, HUGE, STUPENDOUS SPOILER for Series 3.
On the other hand, it IS from The Sun....
Sun Spoiler
Sienna Miller is Marian in the film with Russell Crowe .
To me she represents the can`t act ,giggly ,haemaphrodite creatures who are just superfluous.
S orry to sound nasty but everything she has been in-she wastes.
`s whatNo -don`t buy it gisbourne being the next sherrif.
Hi Everyone -
I'm getting confused here I really must sit up at the back and pay attention! First I mix up my Marian's ,not to say Robin's and put them all in the wrong film I thought Sienna Miller was OUR new Marian !!
There really is no hope for me at all , just leave me alone and I'll play quite happily on my own!
However I did read about Robin killing the Sheriff on robinhood2006.com and they said quote- Going on previous deaths its very doubtful that the Sheriff's killing will be particularly bloody -
unquote I have got that bit right honest.
I think I'll go to bed now Good night
I think we're all straight now about Sienna being in the "Nottingham" movie?
I've put a link on the main Robin Hood blog.
Kitty
I don't think Sienna will be sending you a card this Christmas.
I am a traditionalist .
i phone a plumber -she plumbs
I watch a programme -the actors act
Am i the only cynic surely there must be actors that appear and you feel you have to dive for cover
The bottom line Kitty that some actors act and you can see it (or even on a radio programme you think to yourself she/he is READING THAT! ) where as a good actor or actress does it so effortlessly that you really believe in them
I actually watched Sienna Miller last friday on Jonathan Ross and she does appear to come over all giggly I myself think that she is too light weight for a serious role but only time will tell as she has a few films lined up hasn't she? One is supposed to be quite a serious role along side Kiera Knightley the title of which escapes me at the moment
Off the top of my head i cannot think of any actors in R.H that couldn`t act.
I think Rachael Stirling would have made a fabulous Marian.
I think all of the actors in R.H seemed to gel so well together I allways found their characters very believable
that is why I was so sorry that Lucy felt that she was unable to continue/was let go!! .
As yet there has been no word on who is going to play the female lead is there ? I also like Rachael Stirling.
It will be very interesting to say the least who they do decide on (if any one)
Feeling shamed faced ,I deceided today whilst in Edinburgh to visit the cinema and watch the Sienna offering . I , genuinely went in willing to be converted -forget it - ruined beyond redemption .
One watches the actress not the part . As 0pposed to Kiera who is the part
New casting spoiler--aka RUMOR--for season three. It's more substantial than something just floating around the internet, but far from Holy Writ put out by the BBC.
Not a huge surprise about the role, but rather a nice surprise about the actor.
just a quick question to everyone how are you feeling about this now?
could she still do her parts now that she has another role richards done it or though he starts filming when has finished his other role first (end of the month i think) it can be done she can film to things at the same time as other people do.
or has she already done them but its been done in secret so we think possibly shell be doing her scenes later for the finale that would be cool putting us off the scent also has anyone got any new ways she could come back
Anonymous,
If you're referring to Lucy, we know that even during series one a lot of filming was done without all the personell on the set at the same time. Hence the very close cropped shooting.
So, whoever is in series 3, it's not necessary for them to be on camera at once.
Kitty,
I've only knowingly wathed one Seinna Miller film: Factory Girl. I watched 'cos I like Andy warhol. But I feel character Edie Sedgwick is so over rated in real life anyway, that it wasn't really possible to judge what Seinna was doing.
So, I've just spent the last hour and change reading this entire blog, and I'm just so happy to know that other people are as frustrated as I am. (In fact, I just created a gmail account just so I could respond!)
Having read the whole thing at once just now, my comments might seem old news - sorry!
There are still a few things bothering me about the finale:
1.Robin says to will "take care of her" - he may not be talking about Djaq. Djaq's pretty self-sufficient.
2. We don't see Marion actually buried
Call this wishful thinking, but she does attempt to broker a deal with Guy against the Sherriff. And, now that we know Keith Allen is going to be killed in Series Three, it seems quite possible, if not likely, that Guy could have taken the deal, set up a fake death for Marion, etc. Not the best the writers could do, but possibble. Especially now that Prince John is (finally) going to appear.
Next: I am actually from the States and found the show by mistake; instantly addicted. They have it on here on Saturday nights on BBCAmerica which hardly anyone gets as it's not included with our basic cable. And it's really a shame. I've made all my friends watch it and everyone loves it.
As for the Sienna Miller thread, I had the same feelings for her as Kitty - until I watched Casanova. The movie itself is bit campy but her performance completely changed my mind about her. She could surprise us.
As for Djaq and Will - I think the best way to bring them back might be the very reason we were all questioning the story line to begin with. In the forest with Robin, they would be accepted by their peers. Not in the Holy Land. Perhaps they could return (**hopefully with a recovered Marion**) from Acre after realizing society would not accept them there. There's no way they can bring a new Prince, and new Friar and not have AT LEAST one girl in the thick of things.
-I know this was really long, and I'm sorry.
Hi Katie,
And welcome! I hope you also enjoy the Series 1 blog (linked on the sidebar), and that you'll stay with us all for Series 3 (which has a new blog all ready and waiting).
True, we don't actually see them covering Marian with sand, but we do see Robin approach the grave with her, and we do see the subsequent graves of her and Carter. However, we also all saw Bobby Ewing die…. (Or at least I'm old enough to have done).
Where money is concerned, anything is possible. Dracula came back more times than Frank Sinatra.
I am very interested in the comment that "hardly anyone gets BBC America". I've said it before, but it's true, that no matter how much we Hoodies enjoy the show and admire what Jonas and Lucy have done, there is still an overwhelming demand out there for the Robin Hood of old. (I note Errol Flynn's movie is get yet another special release!)
Oh, and we love long comments.
Haha I'm glad, because that was really rather long.
I think it's not necessarily a demand for the RH of old as much as the fact that here we just don't get anything not American-made put into the mainstream (shameful). I grew up on the Kevin Costner version and to be honest, I enjoy Jonas more (perhaps personal taste is a factor there...but I mean, the boy is easy on the eyes, yes?) My point is, I think a lot of the positive response the show has received is in fact due to the update. Marion is awesome, as is Djaq - they aren't distressed damsels. The Robins-of-yore are centered on the rescuing of helpless women. And I don't mean to sound feminist, because I don't think the show is necessarily trying to push that agenda versus merely creating strong characters, but it's nice to see a version in which the women fight as hard as the men do for justice. It helps modern audiences relate more to the storyline and become emotionally involved in what the characters are experiencing.
That said, half of me is as nervous about series three as excited. The show is about to diverge in several different directions, and I'm just hoping to have more closure than what we received in series 2.
I don't know if you lot know the show Dallas here in the States, but they had an entire series that was only a dream. I'm just praying that the writers don't do that to us! I don't want Marion dead, but I would feel cheated if the ending were a mere hallucination or dream. Whether she's alive or not, the show owes a little more to the viewers.
Hi Katie,
Well, first of all I have to say, in my opinion, I thought Costner's performance was dull. (Although not as bad as Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, his Marian). The best thing it that movie was Allan Rickman's Sheriff (an influence on Keith Allen??), and Geraldine McEwan as Mortianna the Witch. But, everyone to their own. (I'm the only person in the universe who isn't overly impressed by Flynn; he's being Flynn, not Robin Hood).
Also, I wish people (including Lucy Griffiths herself), wouldn't think of Marian as a damsel in distress. She really never was. She was an expert archer, and a daring spy. Check out 1950 Patricia Driscoll in the 1950s, for example. Also, Uma Thurman and Joan Rice made for great "fighting tom-boy" type Marian's. The concept of Maid Marian as a helpless female is not accurate, but has been rasied a lot on these blogs. Partly because of Lucy's interview, and maybe partly because of Prince of Thieves.
I've just netflix'd the Uma Robin Hood...I hope there's more to work with than the Kevin Costner!! I had no idea that she, or Kiera, had ever been in a Robin role (any character in the legend, I mean). I feel enlightened!! Looking forward to a new version, thanks for the tip :)
-Katie
Katie,
I love the Robin Hood movie with Uma Thurman as Marian. Along with Robin and Marian, it's one of my favourites. If you get chance to see it, watch how the season changes in the background as the movie (and their love) progresses. It's the one film of Robin that links him to the Green Man mythology. A lot cleverer (and probably more truthful), than the Crusader for Richard idea. But not to everyone's taste....
Hi Robin- How are you doing after such a long time with no news? Here down South I have been enjoying the lovely weather and having some time off work.
Just received an update that you and others may or may not know it was news to me published on 31-7-08 at 19-35 by Lady_Wolfshead of robinhood2006.com
I quote- Joanne Froggett has been filming in Hungary for the last 3 months she is playing a village girl called Kate who lives in Loxley Her character will be seen for the first time in Episode2 of S3.
Robin Hood was last seen grief striken when his sweetheart Marian was tragically killed in the Holy Land. Although Jo was playing her cards very close to her chest with regards to the plotlines for S3, she did say her character Kate leaves Loxley and joins up in the Forest with Robin and his outlaws after she falls foul of the Sheriff and his henchman - unquote
She goes on to say how everyone has made her feel so welcome and that they have all been fantastic She misses home but has never had so much fun She also says she does lots of fighting scenes in the forset and that she kicked an actor in the stomach was over keen and he ended up with a split lip and he needed 3 stitches.
Apparently its 37degrees over there at the moment.
Its good at last to have something else to go on as all info has been so slow hasn't it
Hi Evielyn,
Yes indeed, news has been slow. In some ways I'm not sorry, all that speculation and rumour!
Joanne Froggett is a fantastic actress. I can't imagine her as Robin Hood's love interest, if that's the way they go. She seems a little too mature, and I can't go for a blond Marian I'm afraid, any more than I liked a blond James Bond. (I'm so shallow!) But it is a very interesting casting, because once again it's someone with a lot of experience and a strong reputation.
I must finish off the series 3 blog in readiness for it all.
I don't know where everybody's getting the idea that her character would be Robin's love interest. The article doesn't say anything about that, but much of the online reaction I've read seems to be to that implication. Given's TV's propensity to have the men in couples be older than the women, I'm guessing that if she's ANYbody's love interest, it could be John's! Though I'm doubting that as well. It sounds to me more like she's going to be a "one of the lads" kind of replacement for Djaq.
Hi everyone-
The Article that I read said nothing at all about any love interest -but we do need a woman just give a bit of femininity to the proceedings otherwise it would just be too blokey!!
Joanne seems to be holding her own over there with them all she says a lot about how she is enjoying everything (she would have to be keen in all that heat wearing the clothes that they do)
Its only speculation any way about a new love for Robin I don't think he would be that shallow, although not wearing his heart on his sleeve all the local people Loxley etc. are bound to know what has happened to Marian and act accordingly towards him with sympathy.
Gisbourne won't exactly be flavour of the month and be even more unpopular which I should imagine will only add to his frustration.
Its beginning to look a bit better then a week ago Needless to say the BBC RH site still says nothing at all
Hi Hoodies,
First of all, regarding Evie's comment "Needless to say the BBC RH site still says nothing at all": It is frustrating for fans how they do that. But then again, what would the BBC say? Let's face it, they've not reported much with any accuracy until after it's been aired. I can understand them wanting no spoilers (me to), but maybe they really don't know too much of what's happening over there.
Secondly: Robin Hood will surely have a new love interest. It will upset the fans even more, but it's kind of expected I guess.
Thirdly, we've all speculated about the saturday 7.000.p.m. slot and how Robin Hood will have to compete with Doctor Who AND Merlin (which I assume is still on course). Well, no Doctor Who for a while??? Does that mean a 4th series of Robin more likely? Certainly the current big name cast would imply that.
FOurthly (new word): How funny is it that Ridley Scott has had to delay filming "Nottingham" because he forgot the leaves fall in Autumn!
Hi again-
At the end of the Dr Who programme on the last two Saturdays they just ran a quick clip with the name of Merlin appearing and saying coming soon Did anyone else see that?
I hadn't hear about the leaves falling. How strange in Autumn as well. What ever next!! I don't know if I am going to like this new film "Nottingham" It all seems to be the wrong way round with the Sheriff being a goodie Nothing is ever left alone
Go and join in the new "fun poll" instead. (Top of the blog).
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